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Essentials In Worship Songwriting

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Essentials In Worship Songwriting focuses on the craft of songwriting for worship. Learn and create with other songwriters from around the world. Leave with a song that you’ve written. You can take this course at any time on your own. Or you can join in with Scheduled groups. See the Courses tab for details. Click Join Group then Get Started on the right.

Part 4 Discussion (20 posts)

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  • Avatar Image WorshipTraining said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    You are now crafting your Final Draft. Given the feedback you’ve received, what areas will you give your attention to? Think – how can I strengthen this song for its purpose in this final rewrite?

  • Avatar Image Joseph H Toft II said 3 months, 2 weeks ago:

    When I started this song, I had a vision of a certain way that I wanted it.. As I continued writing and re-writing, with consideration of the feedback, I found that I needed to fish through and find certain points that I needed to keep. With Dan’s help, I have been able to come up with a decent concept. It may be far from being completed, but I think that it may be a great starting point while it simmers. The Lord may still bring out some fresh perspective.

    I don’t think that I am going to change too much on the lyric end of this song. I’m not completely satisfied with what I have, but I have nothing else to give right now. When I record however, I would like to focus on the dynamics and repetition of the message. I will be adding piano and some harmony to enhance the song and bring it to life.

    I kept all of my notes from start to finish and I intend to keep this song simmering.

  • Avatar Image Dave Killebrew said 5 months, 1 week ago:

    I am completing this course as “Self-Directed” study and not receiving feedback. However, I have been collaborating with a friend. The course is most valuable to me based on tracking the progress of the song (record keeping). In the past, I have not kept the original and changes. I was only keeping what I believed to be the final.

    For my final draft, I am going to simply the verses. I believe I am trying to say to much in each line/verse and the keeps the song from flowing. Concerning the question “how can I strengthen”? I am asking “what words may I eliminate and still keep the intent”. This course has been very helpful. I plan to use the song evaluation worksheet on all my songs. It is an excellent tool!

  • Avatar Image Gifty said 7 months, 2 weeks ago:

    l posted my recording late so l am still waiting for feedback to be able to craft my final draft.

  • Avatar Image Dan Wilt said 8 months, 2 weeks ago:

    FALL 2011 COURSE SESSION BEGINS HERE. ALL POSTS ABOVE THIS ARE FROM MEMBERS OF YOUR CLASS.

    PLEASE REPOST INTRODUCTIONS ABOVE THIS POST. THANKS.

  • Avatar Image Mike Yang said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    Hi Guys and Gals,

    This is the final draft.
    http://members.worshiptraining.com/blog/creative/jesus-my-father-my-friend/

    I did a research about Jesus My Father. There are few songs that using Jesus as Father.

    To me, Jesus is the reflection of heavenly Father. We called the Lord Jesus Christ even Paul called Jesus in that way too. In book of Isiah, there are many times that he proclaimed, “…the Lord is our father…”

    Since A=B and B=C, then A=C so I am going to keep Jesus My Father My Friend instead of Jesus My Saviour My Friend

    :)

  • Avatar Image Justin Mulder said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    Hi Guys,

    Thanks for the feedback. I used a fair bit of it, so found it very constructive and here is the finished product (at least as far as the song, I haven’t done multiple instruments, that could come latter, but at least this is a nice clean recording of the basic song).

    Any comments would be great,
    http://members.worshiptraining.com/blog/creative/resurrection-song/

    Thanks

  • Avatar Image dallassmith said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    with all the feedback i’ve been given, i’m really starting to pay attention to the themes in the stuff i write. i learned i don’t always have to pack a year’s worth of theology in each song. atmosphere and letting one or two themes breathe seems to be the key for me in my songwriting journey at this point. i also realized that maybe i’m not the best corporate worship writer, but i’m proud of how my final edit turned out. i’m hoping to get some help getting keys, drums and better recordings done sometime in the future. anywhoo, if you’re interested, my song is up at http://members.worshiptraining.com/blog/creative/reflections-of-you-final-draft/ .

    sorry for slacking on the feedback side of things. i’ll get to commentin’ more the next few days as the final edits come in. w0rd.

  • Avatar Image Raymond Isaac Paxton said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    Hi guys

    my final draft is up, please review and feedback
    http://members.worshiptraining.com/blog/creative/we-will-draw-near-to-you-final-draft/

    Blessings to all

  • Avatar Image Raymond Isaac Paxton said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    Hi @justinmulder

    having done some graphic design stuff in the past and having the software, I created these from scratch in Illustrator.

    You can, however, get a wide variety of chords from this site…
    http://www.guitarchords247.com/
    create an account (it’s free) and start searching – simple as that…

    blessings

  • Avatar Image Justin Mulder said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    @domyarus I really like those chord diagrams you got at the bottom of your pdf. Where do you get them from? I would love to do the same.

  • Avatar Image Justin Mulder said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    @passionforyourname aka Mike Yang, dude you are my hero, thanks for giving me some feeding back. (This is a shout out to anyone else to give me feedback on my song, I would really appreciate it!)

    Anyway thanks for your honest and helpful evaluation. I kinda agree with you re the song title, I wasn’t married to the idea but it was my song vision so I thought I’d just put it down for now. I’ll definitely try and come up with a better name.

    As far as the song’s connection to resurrection, I take your point. I was looking at it more as how His resurrection affects us, so that’s why I do a little more on the resurrection theme in verse1, and then our response to the resurrection in verse 2 and then ovbiously the resurrection is all about victory so that’s the bridge. However I am going to revisit the lyrics and see if I can’t improve them or get them to be a little more focussed.

    Thanks again, and to the rest of you, please give my song a listen. Thanks
    http://members.worshiptraining.com/blog/creative/resurrection-song/

  • Avatar Image brandoncarter said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    I think this week I am going to focus on the last little bit to polish the song off… I may change a bit of the melody to the bridge of my song even though I had some really good feed back on it, I feel like its my least favourite part of the song however I like the words cause they go better with the vision for my song.
    and I will try and add a couple tracks to do some layering and finalize it all.
    I am really thankful for this class cause I think I have learnt alot about worship song writing and think I can take it from here and put it into use here at home seeing as we have alot of people here who are even in this class. So I just want to say to all you Regina Ap folks, out there, lets do this…lets commit to continuing to write and get some feed back and lets move into the things God has for us as a Worship department.
    bc

  • Avatar Image Melanie Heebner said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    This week has flown by and I haven’t really had a chance to look at my song or comment on some of the other draft 2′s that were posted late (I hope to be able to give some more feedback asap!). At this point I don’t know if I will really make any more changes to what I have already for my song, and if I do, I don’t think they’ll be significant. I think I’d like to put it away for awhile and revisit it with fresh eyes in a few weeks or even months. Thank you to everyone who provided feedback on my song, I really appreciate it!

    I have really enjoyed this course. I think it was good to be forced to go through the songwriting process. I have found “God Songs” and the articles and videos to be so encouraging. Hearing and reading stories of other songwriter’s experiences and practical advice has dispelled some myths that I had about songwriting and has inspired me to continue to write, write write!

  • Avatar Image Mike Yang said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    @justinmulder

    sent a feedback on your creative

  • Avatar Image jasonchollar said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    Haven’t received much in the way of recommendations for changes on my latest draft, so not sure what to change quite yet. I think I’ll give it another listen and maybe try to record it with my worship team at worship practice tonight. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. :0

    thanks guys!

    -jason

  • Avatar Image Norbert Bauer said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    This has been an awesome journey for me, and I am so glad that I took this course. Thank you all for your input. I think we all did a good job being nice and encouraging to one another…

    Since I tend to take everything very serious, I had a hard time to decide which suggestions to follow, and which ones to set aside for now. As I shared last week, a single chord change can affect the whole character of the song.

    When I was introduced to contemporary worship 38 years ago, most songs only had a verse and a chorus. Just in recent years it has become more and more popular to use elements like pre-chorus and bridge. I had a bridge for my song, but felt it did not really add to the message or dynamics. So I decided to stick with a vintage ABAB pattern, and try to build up momentum through added instruments. It is amazing what can be done today even without access to a studio, and I had so much fun trying out new things that I had never done before. Probably overdid it, but I let you all be the judge of that. The final draft will be up shortly.

    Thanks again for walking this path together for a season – blessings!

  • Avatar Image Justin Mulder said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    Hey all,

    I just posted my first draft, I know I’m late, but was away for the last week at Vineyard National Conference in South Africa.

    Anyways here’s the link. Please give me feedback, I would love to here from you

    http://members.worshiptraining.com/blog/creative/resurrection-song/

    Thanks

  • Avatar Image Anita Collins said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    Sorry, i did not have access to post a revised draft for further feedback. I hope to be able to post a final draft this week. I’ve made some revisions to the melody of the bridge but still giving attention to trying to change up the verses a little too!

  • Avatar Image Raymond Isaac Paxton said 1 year, 7 months ago:

    Just wanted to say a big thank you to all the feedback I’ve had on this song – it’s been really encouraging and a fantastic experience for me!

    As someone else mentioned, I’ve written stuff in the past and found it’s been good in that initial draft but then never revisited it thereafter to actively consider…how could this be better?
    It has encouraged and inspired me to go away and review a number of my songs, many have been “finished” for some time now, some even used in a congregational setting and consider how they may be improved.

    Once again, a big, big thank you to everyone for all their feedback – it’s truly been an awesome pleasure and fantastic priveledge to come alongside so many writers with a heart after God’s.

    Blessings to all – final draft to be posted later this week – praise God!

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